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	<description>Camberwell and my life in it</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Damage</title>
		<link>http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/2006/12/feature-in-the-evening-standard/#comment-13340</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Damage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Dagmar, the video show at the SLG is great, one of the best shows I&#039;ve seen there I think. Reminds me of that film Timecode 2000.

I&#039;m moving to a converted Victorian public toilet in Blackfen, it&#039;s up and coming and near the station, the plumbing needs work though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Dagmar, the video show at the SLG is great, one of the best shows I’ve seen there I think. Reminds me of that film Timecode 2000.</p>
<p>I’m moving to a converted Victorian public toilet in Blackfen, it’s up and coming and near the station, the plumbing needs work though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagmar</title>
		<link>http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/2006/12/feature-in-the-evening-standard/#comment-13313</link>
		<dc:creator>Dagmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to spend time with your kids when young even inadvertently like me, but eventually they say what do you do? You have to say, dunno, nuffink, I doss, I slack, I blog.

Alan, the 1998 Swissair crash off Nova Scotia caused gloom amongst local fisherfolk I was told by my connections there. &quot;No-one&#039;s gonna buy Scotian cod now,&quot; they lamented. The phrase is &quot;bottom feeder&quot; for the cod.

Similarly, shrimp process sewage.

Eva, I am dreading having to go and live in a brick box in East Dullwich surviving on fly-and-rainwater sandwiches because the schools are OK there unlike here. You are right about kids and London. I&#039;m always going on about it here but it is dull for the childless.

Actually, there&#039;s far more life for kids to look at. Just the main road to Peckham is incredibly full of human information.

Camberwell is far more intelligent than East Dull which is just bourgeois, really, full of lawyers, web designers, Channel 4 folk, the complacent, the competitive, the chortling.

My partner calls the chi-chi shops there &quot;gigi shops&quot; which is typical of the partner&#039;s Cornish malapropisms.

East Dullwich police station is going to close down. It is noticeable that the Christmas tree on the front of the Town Hall here in Camberwell is decorated completely with blue lights!

I fear I ramble. That cheap red from Somerfield is awful strong.

The video show at the SLG is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s good to spend time with your kids when young even inadvertently like me, but eventually they say what do you do? You have to say, dunno, nuffink, I doss, I slack, I blog.</p>
<p>Alan, the 1998 Swissair crash off Nova Scotia caused gloom amongst local fisherfolk I was told by my connections there. “No-one’s gonna buy Scotian cod now,” they lamented. The phrase is “bottom feeder” for the cod.</p>
<p>Similarly, shrimp process sewage.</p>
<p>Eva, I am dreading having to go and live in a brick box in East Dullwich surviving on fly-and-rainwater sandwiches because the schools are OK there unlike here. You are right about kids and London. I’m always going on about it here but it is dull for the childless.</p>
<p>Actually, there’s far more life for kids to look at. Just the main road to Peckham is incredibly full of human information.</p>
<p>Camberwell is far more intelligent than East Dull which is just bourgeois, really, full of lawyers, web designers, Channel 4 folk, the complacent, the competitive, the chortling.</p>
<p>My partner calls the chi-chi shops there “gigi shops” which is typical of the partner’s Cornish malapropisms.</p>
<p>East Dullwich police station is going to close down. It is noticeable that the Christmas tree on the front of the Town Hall here in Camberwell is decorated completely with blue lights!</p>
<p>I fear I ramble. That cheap red from Somerfield is awful strong.</p>
<p>The video show at the SLG is great.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan  Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/2006/12/feature-in-the-evening-standard/#comment-13310</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan  Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I&#039;m saying is that it&#039;s a value judgement and you have to work out what your own personal priorities are. 

Saying that it&#039;s too expensive is a guiltless way of carrying on as you are whilst blaming your decision on external factors.

For my Missus the compromise was moving from Crouch End to Camberwell. Now she loves Camberwell and everyone&#039;s a winner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I’m saying is that it’s a value judgement and you have to work out what your own personal priorities are. </p>
<p>Saying that it’s too expensive is a guiltless way of carrying on as you are whilst blaming your decision on external factors.</p>
<p>For my Missus the compromise was moving from Crouch End to Camberwell. Now she loves Camberwell and everyone’s a winner…</p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent. There you have it - you&#039;ve got to give up work, holidays, social life AND home in order to have kids. If you want one of you to keep working in London they&#039;ve got to do big commute (and spend money on transport). It&#039;s true that all my friends who have kids move out of London first. That&#039;s one of the reasons there aren&#039;t enough kids or facilities in London for kids. is it so strange that people delay having kids? 

I must concentrate now and do some work! I will not post again, I will not post again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. There you have it — you’ve got to give up work, holidays, social life AND home in order to have kids. If you want one of you to keep working in London they’ve got to do big commute (and spend money on transport). It’s true that all my friends who have kids move out of London first. That’s one of the reasons there aren’t enough kids or facilities in London for kids. is it so strange that people delay having kids? </p>
<p>I must concentrate now and do some work! I will not post again, I will not post again…</p>
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		<title>By: Alan  Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan  Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually found that I&#039;m better off now even without a second income because I used to go out loads and spent a fortune on lads holidays.

The implication of your post is that you are spending everything you earn on essentials. If this really is the case then I&#039;d agree that you can&#039;t afford children but I&#039;d alos say that you can&#039;t really afford your house/flat mortgage/rent.

If this was the case for me I&#039;d move to somewhere that I could afford to have kids- even if it meant giving up my beloved Camberwell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve actually found that I’m better off now even without a second income because I used to go out loads and spent a fortune on lads holidays.</p>
<p>The implication of your post is that you are spending everything you earn on essentials. If this really is the case then I’d agree that you can’t afford children but I’d alos say that you can’t really afford your house/flat mortgage/rent.</p>
<p>If this was the case for me I’d move to somewhere that I could afford to have kids– even if it meant giving up my beloved Camberwell.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Oh and it&#039;s only a Peugeot 106 by the way - nothing too snazzy.  

And I don&#039;t drive it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>…Oh and it’s only a Peugeot 106 by the way — nothing too snazzy.  </p>
<p>And I don’t drive it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t subscribe to the &#039;selfish-people-who-want holidays-instead-of-kiddies&#039; theory.  

Regardless of the holidays they take, or how much their cars cost, most working couples who own their own property cannot afford to lose one whole salary for six months to a year, let alone indefinitely - they would lose their home.  

If I put the money I use for a holiday and the money we spend on our car aside, it would probably come to about a tenth of what I&#039;d need just to pay the mortgage for six months, let alone all the other bills, and the extra money you need for all the things you need to buy for babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t subscribe to the ‘selfish-people-who-want holidays-instead-of-kiddies’ theory.  </p>
<p>Regardless of the holidays they take, or how much their cars cost, most working couples who own their own property cannot afford to lose one whole salary for six months to a year, let alone indefinitely — they would lose their home.  </p>
<p>If I put the money I use for a holiday and the money we spend on our car aside, it would probably come to about a tenth of what I’d need just to pay the mortgage for six months, let alone all the other bills, and the extra money you need for all the things you need to buy for babies.</p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for long haul holidays and an expensive bicycle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for long haul holidays and an expensive bicycle!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan  Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan  Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was just proof that the sexploits of twentysomethings is better telly than watching them later in the throws of mid life crises.

I do think working couples aren&#039;t all too poor for kids but rather delay child rearing in favour of long haul holidays and expensive cars.

It comes back to Reg&#039;s post about differing value systems. The trouble is that I personally believe you don&#039;t really know what you value until you&#039;ve had kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was just proof that the sexploits of twentysomethings is better telly than watching them later in the throws of mid life crises.</p>
<p>I do think working couples aren’t all too poor for kids but rather delay child rearing in favour of long haul holidays and expensive cars.</p>
<p>It comes back to Reg’s post about differing value systems. The trouble is that I personally believe you don’t really know what you value until you’ve had kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagmar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Life + 10 was an abomination compared with the original series which surely inspired Cold Feet which featured that Northern Irish actor who actually lives in East Dulwich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Life + 10 was an abomination compared with the original series which surely inspired Cold Feet which featured that Northern Irish actor who actually lives in East Dulwich.</p>
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