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On housing and squats
Published by Peter | Filed under Development, Events, Nearby
An article in one of the London freesheets (and remember, you get what you pay for) this week featured the tales of squatters, including an 11-bedroom Victorian pile here in Camberwell. Wha? Where’s the 11-bedroom house around here? Does anyone know about this? The other two featured were in Peckham, so our neck of the woods is now firmly fixed in the public conscious as populated by work-shy blaggers.
On the subject of housing, I took a pass through the St George development at Vauxhall last weekend; it was horrible. Empty and vapid, it seemed like there was maximal development on the allowed space and minimal planning; the blocks loomed over central courtyards and made them cold and dark on a sunny day. I hope the staunch opposition by the Camberwell Grove mob has been enough to ensure the same doesn’t happen here.
Been out for a bit of tennis up at Ruskin Park; they say you have to pay to reserve a court, but no-one enforces it so even if you do the right thing and make your booking, chances are that someone will be on the court already. Very unrewarding. Had to throw a father and child off last time; felt evil, but rules are rules. That didn’t seem to stop the boy from crying.
Goings-on: Last Saturday was Bonkersfest! on the Green; as is my annual tradition, I missed it. It’s not my fault that a lot of my friends were born in the summer. Lots of photos on Flickr if you want to see what it’s about. Carnaval del Pueblo is on in Burgess Park on August 3; I’ll be at a football match that day. Honestly, it’s kind of ridiculous.
I’m still looking for more people to contribute here; Drew’s post was excellent and highlighted (highlit?) events that may otherwise have gone unreported. That’s the kind of thing I’m after. If anyone wants to have a go, just let me know.
Peter, it’s a general rule-of-thumb with tennis courts that if you chance your arm to get a game in, and someone comes along and says, “I’ve booked this,” you say, “Fair cop, I’m off.” That’s what I do at Myatt’s Fields. Tough shit on the dad for not forking out for his son. His fault, not yours. Don’t feel guilty about it.
There’s a third court on the cards for Myatt’s Fields in the renovation. Also, the people at the Walworth Road courts are very friendly and welcoming, should you venture down that far.
Houses available for squatting are called ‘EMPTIES’ by prospective dwellers. I have not noticed any 11 bedroomed or otherwise locally. But then I’m not on the look out for ‘empties’ perhaps because my vision is always ‘full’.
Myatts Fields play area is opening tomorrow (today) Thursday 24 July. Come along and play! The water works won’t until the end of the month because the leccy co can’t won’t shan’t plumb in the leccy until then.
Listening to the soundtrack from Elvira Madigan. Gorgeous. Mozart. “Moz — Art” as my eldest read it. Delightful.
Drew, how about narrowing the gap between the Arts Festival and Bonkersfest so that it serves as a culmination/wrap party?
Been thinking about the Festival since your call for feedback…It was fab and the way you got stuck in with such aplomb paid dividends. Sorry for the tardy response — been away. No stunning brainwaves I’m afraid (after all, it was fab) but a few thoughts:
1) Wrap party — It does tend to fizzle out a bit, always has done. It would be nice if it went out with more of a bang (as opposed to a gunshot) hence the perhaps crap idea mentioned above. My vote would be for a knees-up at the Sun & Doves. Maybe punters could collect some kind of tokens/stamps from the various events to gain entry/get a free can of Tenants Super or something?
2) Publicity — The stuff I got through the door was great. To try to catch the eye of those from further afield how about banners on the lamp posts along the super highways that cross at the Green (with a web address) for all the passing (if not stopping) trade? And get in Time Out more — I don’t know how many read it (I do) but it was annoying to see listings for Live Potato Peeling in Shoreditch and such things getting a much higher profile than the Festival during the lead up and whilst it was on.
3) Programme — Looked great and I’m sure it was a huge effort to produce but there were quite a few errors and contradictions in it which limited its use a tiny bit.
There was more, but I’m sorry I’ve forgotten. Will drop you a line if I remember.
I’ve mixed feelings on SGW Vauxhall. I think it sits nicely architecturally on the river by MI6. We’ve friends who live there and once inside, the views are amazing and the space nice. Unlike Council high-rises, folks there take care of shared lobbies and such and it’s welcoming. The shadows cast are like Canary Wharf — hard to avoid when building up, which is the bit I remain unsure of. London is best as a low-rise village, but housing demand will make that difficult to maintain. And if you live there, you’ve a tube underneath, the River Walk, a supermarket, gym, pub, etc. And the money Lambeth made from allowing a formerly derelict site become a sought after place to live funded the transformation of Vauxhall Cross, which is not finished yet but already full of thriving businesses. Two years ago they had open viewing for one of the early penthouses and it was jaw droppingly gorgeous. Two floors atop the building with all glass on all sides. The views were amazing. Some Saudi Prince ended up buying it, for cash apparently.
I have mates that live there and have enjoyed the lovely evening views from their small balcony. John Major is in one of the penthouses. It is ok inside the flats but the corridors are institutional. The complex is an absolute eyesore for everyone else who has to look at it from outside. Regularly voted most ugly building in London by Architects Journal. Shame on Lambeth for allowing it to be built, isolating Vauxhall from the riverfront and sqandering the small stretch of riverside they have.
Returning to the empty property thats potentially available to squatters — the thought occurs to me is it Windsor Walk?
I think its likely to be a commercial premises or houses that have been used as commercial premises (and therefore they have knocked two or more houses together) rather than one single house.
Anyone have any ideas?
Is the large house at the top of Dog Kennel Hill (righthand side as you are going to sainsburys from camberwell) still empty?
Doesnt Chelsea Clinton also live at one of the penthouses at Vauxhall too?
And I fear the river was cut off from the wider Vauxhall/ Kennington population when the railway line was constructed through the area
Mumu — it would not surprise me to see journalists salivating over someone else’s bumper property bonanza as they imagine the next commercial property getting the routine rubber stamp for conversion to ugly residential. Whether it’s welfare abuse or freak house price jumps, the UK is the capital and champion of arbitrary enrichment, running adjacent to the American Dream of earnt status.
Hence the description as an x-bedroomed property even when it still has a commercial use, if that is the case.
Could be Mumu. Or it could be a house with 11 rooms now all used as bedrooms maybe?
Or what about 123 Grove Park? The massive former rehab home for kids that has spent years in planning? It’s massive.
If St George’s Wharf had been made more permeable instead of an almost solid glass wall and the spaces between the river-facing-balcony maximising fingers were clearly public or private, then it could be almost forgiven. Lambeth Council could have achieved this if they had made the developer jump through a few more hoops. For them to then move their offices there from Brixton just rubs salt in the open wound. The rest of Camberwell might feel the same way when Southwark Council moves all its offices to Tooley Street next year!
It’s important to note they moved their PLANNING offices there (probably for cheap rent, if any, which suggests St George may be a lot of bad things, but they are certainly clever
123 Grove Park has certainly been squatted in the past, and there’s a current squat opposite the old convent at 17–18 Grove Park. There are some big old houses down that way.
Penthouse Denmark Road
Indeed, what riches we have in Camberwell. Today a ring-necked parakeet flew through the leafy ceiling of the trees above Lucas Garden, where one could have fancied oneself in a naive painting by Rousseau, such was the tropical heat, not a breath of wind, and the timelessness of that peaceful green space. There were several shiny, stainless steel dessert spoons scattered by the far wall near Linnell Road, as though the seraphim and cherubim had been having a midnight feast of Angel Delight.
Then, there is an Elf on Bushey Hill Road, a Riley Elf Mk II (a booted Mini, cousin to the Wolseley Hornet) with walnut dashboard and old, wobbly, where-are-we-going gearlever, wonderful.
The Cambria pub just behind Ruskin Park is having a major re-fit inside and out
Paint job (camoflage green),scaffolding on the outside (the old security bars on the windows facing the back garden have been removed!)
Whoever has bought it seems to be doing a thorough job — but they are getting rid of the football — no more skysports (10 grand a year is expensive)
They want to create a community pub with lots of popular activities every evening — it will be family friendly — no doubt they want it to be like Spain or Italy but they also manage to watch a football game effortlessly at the same time — without aggro — maybe that’s what is putting them off…Although I’ve never seen the locals at The Cambria misbehave regarding the footie
There will be a good menu with “locally sourced” food — that will be Brixton or Peckham market then…
Sounds good — no doubt Mark will be viddying the results for himself shortly
In today’s Times, William Rees-Mogg — aka “Mystic Mogg” and a man with a near 100% record for getting things wrong — backs our own Harriet Harman to succeed Brown.
Ah well, that’s Hattie’s chances scuppered. It was fun while it lasted.
They would be mad to ditch Brown. People are beginning to like his style, which suits the somewhat serious and sober times.
When Brown tries to smile he looks like a drawing of a sad face that has been scrawlled onto a scrotum…
Yes, he lacks the affectations of spin, planet brand and the I-am-an-icon culture, unlike that fluffy radio DJ bloke who preceded him, who we must remember was awfully unpopular before he went, a bit like Princess Di.
No one would want to succeed Brown right now. It would be the most poisoned of chalices.
In many ways I quite respect Gordon, but I do wonder about all those reports of his fearsome temper and occasional petulance. Blair, meanwhile, is looking smugger and smugger — and that takes some doing. When he met Omaba (before Brown did) on Saturday his face just said: “Ha! I don’t seem so bad now, do I?”
Middle East peace envoy, my arse.
Yes, Brown has been a disappointment. I had higher hopes for him. He’s been unlucky in some ways, but also quite underwhelming. And make no mistake — as our ‘safe hands’ Chancellor he spent us right into the ground, and we’ll suffer for that. Payback is a comin.
Let us all preserve a special hatred for Tony Bliar.
Tony Brown is refreshingly lumpy and unshiney. He does not preen and has no sheen. His “you must all do better” attitude was at first annoying, but that will now disappear. What he needs now is some good ideas to make our economy totally unreliant on the world economy, that’s all.
Yep, all these knobends who have created a false reality by maxing out all their easily obtainable credit cards and looking down on others don’t look so smug now…
But that’s what happens when you’re a slave to the American economy
Special relationship? — If that’s what you want to call blackmail and rape…
“Brown” energy is code in the trade for non-green & unrenewable. As chance would have it, the roadbuilding Chancellor PM did indeed, early in his reign, veto a “feed-in” tariff due to the special liberalised nature of our UK energy market.
So no incentive for micro-generation at home to feed back into the Grid. Whereas in Germany you are actually paid more than you yourself pay the energy company, for units of electricity you generate in surplus.
However, new Brown French nuclear power stations, together with ever reliable Middle Eastern suppliers of oil, surely mean we are guaranteed full energy sovereignty and independence from the world economy, and have no need of micro-generation or a continental-style rail infrastructure, to shield us from energy price shocks. Thanks Gordy!
This is all a bit over my head. I do know that “Cameron” means looks good on camera. Brownfield sites are where dogs poo before Olympics are held. The Conservatives will win the next election just as they did in 1997, then things can only get better. Not everyone can afford to generate their own wind or gas as much as the cycling Conservatives, however. Maybe there should be a return to industrial power, with pickets not picket fences, unions not sun-dried tomatoes. Come on, Albion!
Nice weather today.
Yes, but all that radiation, carbon and methane!
That’s ZanuLiebore’s fault. Or inadequate parking restrictions in Camberwell. Either way, last night’s rain was good for the grass.
A quick search for ZanuLiebore finds some very vitriolic blog blokes at it! Today’s Guardian has an obituary of Elizabeth Bartlett the national health poet. Now there’s someone to look up to.
Drew, did you meet Stella Duffy during Arts Week? She was reading at the library, I see.
Roll on the general election…
Which puppet do I choose?
These are the choices we make in a democracy which isn’t physically cracking your head open with a truncheon
So I suppose it’s democratic in that sense…Us proles should be greatful for that at the very least…
The old Kennedys shop on Denmark Hill has a new sign — ‘Michelle’s Meat & Fish’ — maybe we are getting a butcher at last.…
A butcher would be great. When I first moved here I thought Peckham would be great for buying meat cos every other shop was some stinkin butcher. And it is good — so long as you want lamb or goat or knackered chicken. I go to Irish Nevins most times now, for the rest.
@34
Bunch of philistines — it will be a lowest common denominator butcher shop with no concept of aesthetic or presentation
What was wrong with keeping the original fixtures and fittings of that shop?
Fingers crossed it will be a decent quality butcher. Did a quick search for Michelle’s Meat & Fish, can’t find any previous.
Since she’s called Michelle then at least we should be able to get bangers, pork belly and some good beef!
Not like Mohammed’s Fresh Meats. Though his lamb is fine indeed.
Course, most likely it’ll be one of those naff meat shops with everything packed up in suspicious £2.50 trays of “Chinese” ribs. Nice.
Hey ho.….…..
Michelle you say? I have just walked past the former Kennedys and the sign actually says Christine’s Meat and Fish. I hope its good.
On another note I see that Su Thai (at the start of Coldharbour Lane opposite Nandos) has reopened
And the Eastern Tree restaurant on Coldharbour Lane seemed to be shut when I walked past — is this permanent or just tonight?
It has a Golfrate properties sign over the door so maybe it is being forced out by new landlord (Golfrate seem to be taking over London — they have bought the Fridge and numerous buildings in Brixton and other parts of London. there is discussion about the company on urban75 — http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=250148 and http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=248709 )
Asif Aziz, yes, he bought the Troc. There is nothing sinister. Maybe it will improve Brixton.
Eastern Tree has eratic opening days. Check before you travel.
Refurb of Cambria looking good with red awnings and large crystal chandeliers.
Read Stella Duffy’s book while lying on a Greek beach a few weeeks ago. Very enjoyable and recognised many of the characters and locations.
Interesting reading about Golfrate on urban75 — quite a few mentions of Future Brixton on there: http://www.futurebrixton.org/about/
Where’s the Future Camberwell masterplan from Southwark Council?
I know this sounds a bit mad and very OTT.. but does anyone know where I can hire/rent a soft ice cream machine for the day. My daughter is having a party this wkd and has expressed her interest in an ice cream machine. Short of hiring a van to park outside our house, I have no idea
Aren’t ice cream machines are a feature or figment of Roald Dahl films? I would improvise with packs of ice cubes from a supermarket in a large plastic bowl full of cheap tubs from Lidl. Scoop, plop, next.
45– I was hoping for something a little bit classier than than…NEXT
Yes, but if you make ice cream machine noises, the nippers won’t know any different. They’re be too busy skidding round on E numbers anyway!
?!?!
47– Are you availible to be hired for the production of ice cream van noises between the hours of 2–6 this saturday afternoon? If so then you hav saved me a packet
What, you mean you have someone cycling round the local road making ice cream van noises so the little children cry, “There’s an ice cream van! There’s an ice cream van!” But the noises keep moving round and round the block and the cockney Italian man and his van never appear. Very Roald Dahl!
phew, tis muggy in the centre today.
Anyone notice that funny smell everywhere yesterday?
No, but I agree on the muggy-ness. I spent a period living in Hong Kong and it’s (almost) the same. I have to, unfortunately, take a tube later this evening, something I’ve more or less avoided this summer. I expect widespread personal hygiene issues. From the other passengers, I should stress; I remain as fragrant as Mary Archer.
Interesting blog here: http://www.livefromtheheygate.blogspot.com/
Somebody documenting the demise of the estates around Elephant. Great photos too.
http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/whatson/carnaval-del-pueblo-2008-feature-1161.html?utm_source=general-newsletter-31.07.08&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Last-Chance-Text&utm_campaign=General-Newsletters
this link could potentially not work at all, but this looks good for Sunday!
Has anyone been listening to the Woman’s Hour serial ‘Inside the Whale’ this week? I caught one episode which mentioned the Sunpat factory scenting the air as far as Camberwell, and later in the week the young lovers were off to swim at the Peckham Lido. Happy days!
people might find this site of interest.
You can see all sorts of information shown on a map — crime, e-connectivity, income, education and even house prices, Alan D.
http://www.londonprofiler.org/
According to posters on Cambria windows it’s the opening party tonight with live jazzzzzzzz.
Oh no!
Who are these people who think Jazz is good?
Thanks SG but I found the site really awkward to use and gave up.
Would you like me to submit a change request for you to prioritise for your next sprint?
I am assuming that you are involved in the site’s development and that you are working ‘agile’…
Clunck website sg but interesting once you figure it out. We’re covered in dark red!
Heygate blog odd — does anyone really think they should stay? Though word is they’ll probably end up refurbing and staying, as Elephant regen is stalled. Again.
I thought SG’s link was a pretty cool site, if rather unsettling considering the hordes of barbarians at my gate!
But your back gate is well protected.
What’s going to happen without barbarians?
They were, those people, a kind of solution.
— C.P. Cavafy
Alan, if you hear any Charlie Parker recording, you too will like jazz.
You mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFx9ZBlBUuc
Sounds like a bumble bee. Total soil.
Thank you, that is marvellous, is he not absolutely brilliant? I agree with you that bebop can be bumble-bee-like and irritiatingly jaunty, but he even makes that sound smooth. His earlier stuff is worth seeking out — he takes pop tunes of the 1930s and turns them into something sublime. His smile on that clip is certainly that of a fellow who enjoys his heroin. Since he died at 34 anything by him is something to treasure. I do not think that Parker ever visited Camberwell, but well done for broadcasting him on this blog, Alan Dale, fertile soil indeed for growing new Charlie Parker fans.
Just so Dagmar; did you get to see the re-release of Lets Get Lost last month? I missed it at the Ritzy, but have just ordered the DVD. Chet Baker, he had it all and threw it away, leaving only his music behind. Miles Davis used to say jazz was the classical music of the black man; being a big fan of african music I tend to think jazz is the classical music of America. Miles will probably kick my bony ass for arguing, right or wrong. What’s not to like, Alan? And BTW Merrick and I was in the Hermit last night, where’s you?
When a landlord offers up Jazz for opening night my heart sinks.
All you Howard moons should leave it to the the local Vince Noirs..
‘Science teachers and the menatlly ill. That’s all Jazz is for’ here’s the debate in full:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwQ_zeRwEs
Dig that crazy rhythm, man, it’s driving me insane.
Another reason not to cyle round E&C…Jenny Jones gets hit.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/3444
http://www.carnavaldelpueblo.co.uk
Today!
just to clarify — I have nothing to do with londonprofiler.org
I simply found it on google maps mania
If you have any feedback on it, I’m sure the guys at UCL would love to hear it.
I agree its not particularly user friendly at the moment but I think their main aim was to integrate loads of data first — I believe it may still be in beta
Another “totally off topic” post -
if anyone is on Facebook and would like to connect, my Facebook id is sg perry
It would be nice to build our online community — maybe we could create our own set of Camberwell groups
After a period of relative quiet I see theres been another stabbing in Camberwell — http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7539357.stm — on Northlands Street
Forgot that Seymour bros doesn’t open on Sundays. Daft.
Carnavale del Pueblo was a bit of a wash out but I did manage a couple of skewers of brazilian beef. Only a quid a throw.
Bit of a dance then a leap on the inflatables followed by soft play at the Pulse.
hi sg i’m on facebook, I’ll look you up!
Carnavale was good but once that rain started again at 6pm my enjoyment of it was sapped. Shame as there was some interesting food going.
Incredible that there’s such a huge S American community as I don’t feel they’re very visible. Some more restaurants would be very welcome!
@Phil G: The heavy Latin American presence is around Elephant & (especially) Old Kent Rd; lots of cantinas down there. Also, Burgess Park on Sundays has the Latin American football league (I don’t know if that’s the real title).
There used to be an excellent Brazilian restaurant in Camberwell, but that’s long gone. Would be nice if we had some of that back.
Ah yes, I saw a cantina on Old Kent Rd once. Might have to give it a whorl.
Some Peruvian restaurants would be great though. Save me flying out there.
Just to recommend New Dewaniam. Very nice place with great service. Food very competent without being exceptional. It’s a sound option for a nice meal in Camberhell when you don’t fancy laying out for a gastropub.
Did anyone buy the Mail on Sunday on Sunday? There is a page 49 hilariously paranoid investigative article by Simon McGee about the red man-and-van vans in our area with the hand-painted livery, “VAN AND DRIVER £20 PER HOUR”. The vans are multi-use including, according to the Mad on Sunday, accommodation for drug addicts. There is a Mal on Sunday hotline to call if you know more. “A man called Jack identified himself as the main van driver. But when Jack turned up to an arranged meeting, he claimed he knew nothing about the business, insisting the boss was called Henry and was away on holiday in Spain.” Henry! Spain! Jack! The piece is headlined “Red van invasion” and suggests that this is the beginning of the end…
Handy link to story — http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1040980/How-suburbs-coming-siege-red-van-invasion.html (found using the power of google rather than me actually reading the Daily mail) — oh the trauma of us in the suburbs being swamped by legitimately taxed vehicles.
Sorry chaps, but does anyone know anyone who’s good at hanging doors? I’ve just realised I’m rubbish.
Michael Hutchence?
Ouch.
Sorry.
For the love of God that’s a slim story. It really is the silly season. I imagine even leafy Dulwich has more pressing social problems than the odd ‘unsightly’ red ex-GPO van.
Is our “man and van” van still there? I can’t remember noticing it recently. If so, why didn’t we make it into the Mail?
I seem to remember seeing it on Camberwell New Road not that long ago. The Mail clearly believes we’re too hardened to urban deprivation to be offended by a van.
I hate The Daily Nail — I immediately distrust anybody who reads it — they are dead to me — I have nothing to say to them…
No, the red van on Camberwell New Road went when London Transport took over the site of the disused garage.
I’ve seen it lurking around Denmakrk Road and Coldharbour lane only a few weeks ago. I also saw it in East Dulwich.
No friend of the Mail, but as a former journalist I thought that was a good and quirky little story. A fleet of mystery vans. I did wonder how the same one kept popping up everywhere, and now I know.
I spied a red van on the waste land in front of the huge housing estate on Coldharbour Lane yesterday. I think their prices may have gone up, I could have sworn it was £15 an hour and yesterday it was very definitely £20.
In other news we went to the newly revamped Cambria for lunch on Sunday. A very nice refit indeed. Smartened up a touch with the requisite mismatching chairs (some definitely more comfortable than others!) and tables. A new swanky menu provided a fair amount of choice at reasonable(ish) prices. Being hungover and undecided I got a portion of chips, the chorizo and a pint of prawns and Anna plumped the nut roast. My prawns were nice but fiddley, the chorizo tasty and the chips ace. Anna loved her nut roast but that is basically a plate of stuffing with all the trimmings. First weekend nerves probably accounted for a surplus of staff but everyone was friendly and the place had a great atomosphere. Beer garden is much improved too.
We liked it there but would go back un hungover for a proper try. I suspect we’ll be going to it a whoe bunch more than we did previously…
There were further revelations about the red vans in last Sunday’s Mail — apparently the man behind them all lives in the house at the entrance to the trading estate on Denmark Road. See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1050948/Exposed-The-man-menace-rusty-red-vans-blighting-suburbia-ads.html
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eusebiovic Says:
July 29th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
@34
Bunch of philistines — it will be a lowest common denominator butcher shop with no concept of aesthetic or presentation
What was wrong with keeping the original fixtures and fittings of that shop?
12/09/2008
There are times when I hate being proved right…I so wish that somebody else had taken on that lovely shop, kept the fixtures and fittings and turned it into a fishmonger or top quality sausage,pie and pasty shop
Sad…
The meat hanging up there doesn’t look very happy. Even more sinister is the outbreak of blue vans, reported by the Mail, in Melton Mowbray — home of the porked pie, note, home of the porkie, oh yes.
— Name?
— Kilty.
— Take him down.
The other day I was on the top deck of the 45 bus and it stopped at the lights next to this place…
I saw, I kid ye not one of the guys behind the counter wiping the meat down in the display cabinets with what looked like a heavily soiled tea towel
I just shook my head and the lady in the seat in front of me kissed her teeth and muttered something in Nigerian which sounded extremely unpleasant…
Give over..
Alan Dale @94
Sadly, It’s all true Alan, and it reminded me of my original post on here a few weeks ago…
Psychic ability to read the future or is Camberwell becoming a bit too predictable?
I went to watch Fisher beat Basingstoke at Dog Kennel Hill. Much better standard than Dul.Ham.
Surprised by Basingstoke’s alcohol fueled away support effing and jeffing in the Hamlet’s bar.
Had another excellent takeaway from Buddha Jazz.
The other day I watched the Hamlet beat Corinthian Casuals 3–1 with an injury hit squad…they played well, kept the ball on the ground carved the other team apart…very impressive
Some of the away support can be a bit boisterous at the bar sometimes — Sittingbourne last season springs to mind, they had some right yobs in…no doubt it kicked off when they got back home — good, best place for them to do it too…