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		<title>By: Regeneguru</title>
		<link>http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/2009/02/camberwell-public-meeting/#comment-98415</link>
		<dc:creator>Regeneguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those wishing to support local business by going the extra mile (or, if you are a resident street-parker, the extra 50 metres will do) for local businesses, could do worse than highlight the following principles to local councillors and MPs:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fsb.org.uk/default.aspx?id=0&amp;loc=keeptradelocal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Keep Trade Local&lt;/a&gt;

As the UK&#039;s leading small business representative, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fsb.org.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Federation of Small Businesses&lt;/a&gt; really knows what it&#039;s talking about.

With big business and over-extended mortgagors enjoying multi-billion bailouts it remains puzzling to see some Camberwellers treating equitable infrastructural reform as a subsidy for small business, while attempting to position themselves as champions of local business in SE5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those wishing to support local business by going the extra mile (or, if you are a resident street-parker, the extra 50 metres will do) for local businesses, could do worse than highlight the following principles to local councillors and MPs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fsb.org.uk/default.aspx?id=0&amp;loc=keeptradelocal" rel="nofollow">Keep Trade Local</a></p>
<p>As the UK’s leading small business representative, the <a href="http://www.fsb.org.uk" rel="nofollow">Federation of Small Businesses</a> really knows what it’s talking about.</p>
<p>With big business and over-extended mortgagors enjoying multi-billion bailouts it remains puzzling to see some Camberwellers treating equitable infrastructural reform as a subsidy for small business, while attempting to position themselves as champions of local business in SE5.</p>
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		<title>By: Liliana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liliana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ dagmar: hahaha, yes, earlier today i was briefly thinking &#039;a village far far away&#039;, perhaps even in shrekland where they are all magical creatures and singalot

@sg that&#039;s brilliant, thank you so much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ dagmar: hahaha, yes, earlier today i was briefly thinking ‘a village far far away’, perhaps even in shrekland where they are all magical creatures and singalot</p>
<p>@sg that’s brilliant, thank you so much</p>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
		<link>http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/2009/02/camberwell-public-meeting/#comment-98350</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lilliana

Top 5 things I like about Camberwell
- its promixity to most of central London, by road and buses

- its range of great pubs, including the Castle, Hermits and Sun and Doves

- the friendliness of its residents and shopkeepers

- Brunswick Park

- St Giles Surgery

Top 5 ways me and others could improve Camberwell

- support local businesses wherever we can

- have more community events in our parks

- recycle and freecycle, and don&#039;t leave rubbish on the street

- help neighbours

- can&#039;t think of anything else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lilliana</p>
<p>Top 5 things I like about Camberwell<br />
– its promixity to most of central London, by road and buses</p>
<p>- its range of great pubs, including the Castle, Hermits and Sun and Doves</p>
<p>- the friendliness of its residents and shopkeepers</p>
<p>- Brunswick Park</p>
<p>- St Giles Surgery</p>
<p>Top 5 ways me and others could improve Camberwell</p>
<p>- support local businesses wherever we can</p>
<p>- have more community events in our parks</p>
<p>- recycle and freecycle, and don’t leave rubbish on the street</p>
<p>- help neighbours</p>
<p>- can’t think of anything else</p>
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		<title>By: Mushtimushta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mushtimushta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mark
....“that sound (&amp; presumably look) like Ian McKellan” is an uncanny assessment if you haven’t met ‘them’. Was it uncannily accurate then, Mark?
As to being unreconstructedly Enid Blytony. Mmmm, don&#039;t really know how to respond to that, because I don&#039;t really understand it.
I accept that my last posting was a bit incendiary &amp; based on nothing factual. Perhaps a little unfair, on reflection, but alot of fun to write, nevertheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark<br />
.…“that sound (&amp; presumably look) like Ian McKellan” is an uncanny assessment if you haven’t met ‘them’. Was it uncannily accurate then, Mark?<br />
As to being unreconstructedly Enid Blytony. Mmmm, don’t really know how to respond to that, because I don’t really understand it.<br />
I accept that my last posting was a bit incendiary &amp; based on nothing factual. Perhaps a little unfair, on reflection, but alot of fun to write, nevertheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagmar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Camberwell Society is great. They have a lot of experience and expertise. They are not here today, gone tomorrow. They are here for what they say they are here for here.

Myatt&#039;s Field has more planes than any other park in Camberwell. Me and the youngest Dagmar spent the whole day there. It was heaven. Then we came home.

Liliana, you are a secular angel. Until you know better, until you hear a voice a bit like Michael Jackson&#039;s calling you to some better place, please stay with us in Camberwell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Camberwell Society is great. They have a lot of experience and expertise. They are not here today, gone tomorrow. They are here for what they say they are here for here.</p>
<p>Myatt’s Field has more planes than any other park in Camberwell. Me and the youngest Dagmar spent the whole day there. It was heaven. Then we came home.</p>
<p>Liliana, you are a secular angel. Until you know better, until you hear a voice a bit like Michael Jackson’s calling you to some better place, please stay with us in Camberwell.</p>
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		<title>By: Liliana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liliana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>news just in: 
space formerly known as the national on camberwell road (or part of it or part right next door to it) is going to be... wait... yes, a church. this one (unlike all the others within the square mile) is all about fire and brimstone or fire and air or something. fiery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>news just in:<br />
space formerly known as the national on camberwell road (or part of it or part right next door to it) is going to be… wait… yes, a church. this one (unlike all the others within the square mile) is all about fire and brimstone or fire and air or something. fiery.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkeycat</title>
		<link>http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/2009/02/camberwell-public-meeting/#comment-98278</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkeycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Similarly, it seems a little pointless to start a local campaign group from scratch, when one already exists that has the recognition of the council.&quot; 

The idea of this is not so much a campaign group but an umbrella group for all the little campaign groups that there are. Everyone has their own priorities- perfectly reasonably- but there must be some common ones that we all share. 

The idea for this group is twofold:

Firstly, to get all these differing factions and interest groups together. Instead of trying to vie for the limited time and attention of officials for their own interests, why not find out if we have common goals and then shout louder together for the same thing, instead of being lots of small buzzings in someone&#039;s ear.

Secondly, to get those who are not involved on the forum or this website, or have little or no idea that such organisations exist. For example younger people, immigrants and those with mental health issues.

These people may also be thinking that organisations like the Camberwell Society can do little for them. And on the face of it, I think they would be right. This is not to say that the society has not done some good work to try and preserve the architecture of Camberwell and improve the local environment but from the evidence of the magazine it hasn&#039;t got that many people from the aforementioned groups...yet. As far as I am aware they are keen to do so and I believe that there is talk of helping in some way with the community garden that is being set up on the D&#039;Enysford Estate behind Camberwell Church Street. 

To this end, we would appreciate any help and comments you have on the idea of an umbrella group meeting. We have a few ideas already and I or Liliana will be posting something soon. In the meantime, what are the top 5 things you like about Camberwell (I know it&#039;s already been done but a nice neat list would help) and what are the top 5 ways that both YOU and others could improve Camberwell? (Constructive criticism is better than just saying it&#039;s rubbish, and that &quot;someone&quot; should do something about it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Similarly, it seems a little pointless to start a local campaign group from scratch, when one already exists that has the recognition of the council.” </p>
<p>The idea of this is not so much a campaign group but an umbrella group for all the little campaign groups that there are. Everyone has their own priorities– perfectly reasonably– but there must be some common ones that we all share. </p>
<p>The idea for this group is twofold:</p>
<p>Firstly, to get all these differing factions and interest groups together. Instead of trying to vie for the limited time and attention of officials for their own interests, why not find out if we have common goals and then shout louder together for the same thing, instead of being lots of small buzzings in someone’s ear.</p>
<p>Secondly, to get those who are not involved on the forum or this website, or have little or no idea that such organisations exist. For example younger people, immigrants and those with mental health issues.</p>
<p>These people may also be thinking that organisations like the Camberwell Society can do little for them. And on the face of it, I think they would be right. This is not to say that the society has not done some good work to try and preserve the architecture of Camberwell and improve the local environment but from the evidence of the magazine it hasn’t got that many people from the aforementioned groups…yet. As far as I am aware they are keen to do so and I believe that there is talk of helping in some way with the community garden that is being set up on the D’Enysford Estate behind Camberwell Church Street. </p>
<p>To this end, we would appreciate any help and comments you have on the idea of an umbrella group meeting. We have a few ideas already and I or Liliana will be posting something soon. In the meantime, what are the top 5 things you like about Camberwell (I know it’s already been done but a nice neat list would help) and what are the top 5 ways that both YOU and others could improve Camberwell? (Constructive criticism is better than just saying it’s rubbish, and that “someone” should do something about it).</p>
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		<title>By: James J</title>
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		<dc:creator>James J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alan Dale
&quot;They might not be the most urbane...&quot;
Actually, I think you are implying that they are too urbane.

urbane adj 1 with refined manners; suave; courteous. 2 sophisticated; civilized; elegant. 

As it happens, the one member of the society I know is a retired professor of anthropology who did research in the countries now known as the Congo and Tanzania from the 1960s onwards. So she for one might well be up for some African cuisine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan Dale<br />
“They might not be the most urbane…“<br />
Actually, I think you are implying that they are too urbane.</p>
<p>urbane adj 1 with refined manners; suave; courteous. 2 sophisticated; civilized; elegant. </p>
<p>As it happens, the one member of the society I know is a retired professor of anthropology who did research in the countries now known as the Congo and Tanzania from the 1960s onwards. So she for one might well be up for some African cuisine.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can almost picture the scene in 20 years time (for those who do remain here) where a younger generation will be mocking your views.&quot; - That happens to me now, never mind 20 years from now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I can almost picture the scene in 20 years time (for those who do remain here) where a younger generation will be mocking your views.” — That happens to me now, never mind 20 years from now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagmar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wishing tree has sprung up towards the bottom of Camberwell Grove. Spring seems a good time to take advantage of this new facility, which must be as efficacious as anything in these straitened days.

Opposite, the boards are being taken down to reveal St George&#039;s handsome development. Wednesday&#039;s Evening Standard property section had a fine spread selling the benefits of Camberwell and environs, soon to be trained and tubed to the rest of London.

Jenny Eclair&#039;s Warholian face has replaced the Camberwell Beauty as brand logo. Let&#039;s hope she is remunerated for this constant usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wishing tree has sprung up towards the bottom of Camberwell Grove. Spring seems a good time to take advantage of this new facility, which must be as efficacious as anything in these straitened days.</p>
<p>Opposite, the boards are being taken down to reveal St George’s handsome development. Wednesday’s Evening Standard property section had a fine spread selling the benefits of Camberwell and environs, soon to be trained and tubed to the rest of London.</p>
<p>Jenny Eclair’s Warholian face has replaced the Camberwell Beauty as brand logo. Let’s hope she is remunerated for this constant usage.</p>
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