Another ‘review’ of the Church Street Hotel, this time in The Times.
Best thing: Breakfast. Worst thing: Neighbourhood.
No mention, of course, of the nearby Edwardian splendour of Camberwell Grove, or the South London Gallery; that would ruin the agenda. Well, Martin Fletcher, you can stick your warm goats’ cheese on crostini
up your arse, and your sneering reference to multicultural South London… [where] finding quality is harder
with it.
Hi Oliver
You leave us with few scientific bases for conjecture.
Can anyone else hear the sound? It could be the onset of potamophobia, physically manifesting itself as a tremolo on the eardrum.
@Oliver — heating pipes expanding and rubbing against a joist?
Although that may be more a creaking noise than a buzzing (i should know, upstairs’ creaks extremely loudly everytime the central heating hot water pump goes — every 2 minutes. gaaah!!)
or have you only just noticed you have an extractor fan?
A dodgy electrical connection, which in a bathroom is deadly.
Peter Says:
May 30th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
… no they shouldn’t. The first is a racist assumption, the second is a fundamental misunderstanding of science.
So a statement that you don’t agree with doesn’t deserve an answer?
Oliver Says:
May 31st, 2007 at 8:49 am
To assume that he won’t turn up to his hearing because he is (probably) black and an immigrant is very dim. However, someone who drives around without insurance or licence is unlikely to fulfill his his bail-related resposibilities.
I didn’t say he was black.
City Office Audio is closing
They are selling everything off cheap.
Sad to see them go.
There’s great music on at S&D on Sunday at 8pm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thesunanddoves/523110429/ and an organic fruit n veg and lovely bread from 10am ‑3pm on the forecourt. They almost got rained out last Sunday poor people.
Dear Mrs T — posting 55
You imply that you think he’s black. Stop playing games. When Oliver tries to answer your point (as you ask us all to do), your response is caricature and playing dumb.
You share many characteristics with your nom de plume.
i go away for a little while and look what happens!
hi margret, i’m squidder. would like to wrestle?
It’s not that I don’t agree with you, Iron Lady, it’s that you are wrong.
First you made the assumption that someone was likely to be an immigrant with two passports who would flee the country, based on the fact they don’t have an Anglo-Saxon name. It could turn out that they are and do just that, but basing it on someone’s name is patently wrong. I have plenty of friends, acquaintances and colleagues who don’t have common British names, as they are the children of immigrants. But they were born here and are English.
Second, you said that global warming is a myth because it was cold and rained over the weekend. Global warming doesn’t mean Britain becomes Mediterranean, it means the overall temperature of the globe is increasing, which means some parts see extreme fluctuations of temperature and leads to unseasonal weather. Ironically, global warming could lead to the collapse of the gulf stream which brings warm air and water up to Northern Europe, making the weather here extremely cold.
Now, I get that you are here trolling, with your provocative name and opinions. But the problem is, nobody likes a troll.
Spot on Peter.
I went to Nunhead Cemetery open day with the family a couple of weekends ago. I was amazed by the names on the graves from Victorian times. Like John and Hannah Nolloth of Camberwell:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/markdodds/508557887/
Who cares what one of Murdoch’s little helpers thinks anyway?
The chap’s name is Vietnamese I think, but asinine inference I agree. The courts take a view on likelihood of absconding before offering bail, which I guess they have done in this case. Nunhead Cemetery Open day rather odd I thought, albeit in a splendid setting. A Friends of the Earth man dressed as a very scary polar bear and middle aged slightly porky goths who had driven there in a hearse. You don’t get that in SE5. I think it’s quite amusing, if indeed scientifically illiterate, to argue that, because it’s cold, global warming is a myth. The argument from single event usually runs the opposite way (see eg The Indie passim).
John and Hannah Nolloth of Greater East Dulwich.
http://www.se5forum.org/forum/index.php/topic,443.0.html
it’s Bonkersfest time again tomorrow then.
the guys were putting the tents up as me and mrs squidder went by earlier.
the line up looks good:
http://www.bonkersfest.com
any bloggers going along?
Peter Says:
First you made the assumption that someone was likely to be an immigrant with two passports who would flee the country, based on the fact they don’t have an Anglo-Saxon name. It could turn out that they are and do just that, but basing it on someone’s name is patently wrong. I have plenty of friends, acquaintances and colleagues who don’t have common British names, as they are the children of immigrants. But they were born here and are English.
Highly unlikely, but I would like to be proved wrong.
Peter also said…
Second, you said that global warming is a myth
What I actually said was “Global warming is tosh”
Peter also said…
Ironically, global warming could lead to the collapse of the gulf stream which brings warm air and water up to Northern Europe, making the weather here extremely cold.
Agreed..
Peter also said…
Now, I get that you are here trolling, with your provocative name and opinions. But the problem is, nobody likes a troll.
I shall forthwith change my sign on name. It’s bloody brilliant!!
‘Bonkers Fest’ tomorrow on the green.
Have to work AM but will be there.
I am an expatriate who has lived in the United States for almost thirty years. This past ten years have been a time of looking back at Britain with regret and concern.
Those who advocate ‘open borders’ (and I cannot, for the life of me, fathom why they do) do play the racism card and label racism as an abnormality. For my part, absolutely unconditional immigration is a bigger abnormality.
What society would not wish to control the numbers for which it provides services? What society would not want to prohibit the workshy and criminal from adding to its burden? What society would not want to impose a minimum set of conditions (respect our laws, be able to understand our language) on those who wish to come in?
Racism is not the worst thing that a society can be guilty of. Madness — as typified by unconditional immigration — may be for it is a form of societal suicide.
Peter said…
Second, you said that global warming is a myth because it was cold and rained over the weekend. Global warming doesn’t mean Britain becomes Mediterranean, it means the overall temperature of the globe is increasing, which means some parts see extreme fluctuations of temperature and leads to unseasonal weather. Ironically, global warming could lead to the collapse of the gulf stream which brings warm air and water up to Northern Europe, making the weather here extremely cold.
What qualifications do you have to quote these assumptions?
Wake up Maggie I think I’ve got something to say to you. Sometimes it takes a ‘troll’ to get people talking. I don’t think you should give up just yet.
Foxy Al did the best with his anti-tramp rant. My Gordon Gecko got up Squidder’s nose and Buckovski999 seems to upset himself.
Don’t change your name just work harder at your posts. Racism will be met with instant dismissal and global warming has been done to death.
@ maggie…and try to work harder at your spelling or drink less grog before posting.
Christine’s an alter ego for marget fatcher then. brilliant, what a cunning ruse.
any bloggers venturing down to bonkersfest… come say hi, i’ll be there for most of the day. probably wearing a red M(A)D Pride t‑shirt and stewarding or drinking beer or something.
might come down to bonkersfest — have to spend most of the day singing at RFH.
which isn’t the burden i make out — i need the practice i promise you.
suffice to say the south bank beethoven 9 next sunday evening will be one to remember.
drew mishmash
Hmmm… I wasn’t the one who brought up the subject, yet I am the one being asked to provide qualification to discuss it. I would suggest that as 169 of the world’s nations have signed up to a treaty to combat global warming, the burden of proof is on you to provide qualification that it is a myth.
Peter’s right as usual. He needs no qualification. He’s erudite and besides, it’s common sense, we’ve been racing (as a race) this way for a few generations more than is healthy.
More upbeat, realistic?, review in the Financial Times: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/99b7e98e-10a7-11dc-96d3-000b5df10621.html
They’re doing a really good job of it at the Church Street Hotel…
I like the FT — no nonsense down to earth language
Our ‘Pooter has been down these last few days but I am now shovelling money into it and into Richard Virgin’s pocket, whatisname, Branston.
I thought Maigret was doing OK, he was angry like all of us that someone comes into our parish, manor, patch, with a lethal weapon and terminates a grandmother as he pertinently points out and her dog. It’s the killing of the dog that gives an idea of how much something had gone wrong for a nearly-ton car to mount the pavement. You think, “BMW, 20-year-old male” you think oh dear.
“Jailing Bao, the judge said…” In the effort to reduce methane, some energy saved here.
I was in Grove Park cemetery, Eltham, recently, contemplating life and death, very peaceful there because the recumbents sleep so soundly. The plants thrive, burgeon, indirectly, on the mineral rich diets of the occupants. You could make a poem from the names on the headstones.
Ernest Harold Pain
Garfield Anthony South
Charles Thomas Wren
Henry Victor Board
Thomas William Supple
Thomas George Shave
James Joseph Cope
Albert Edward Earwaker
Charles Mark Cook
Alred William Baron
William Charles Frederick Jinks
Stanley Bird
Arthur Leonard Cambridge
George James Quodling
Romalnd John Bull
Alfred William George Poett
Whipped open the curtains this morning and no sign of the mayhem of last evening.
Those guy’s must have worked thru the night to dis-assemble and take that lot away.
Well done to them!
Peter Says:
Hmmm… I wasn’t the one who brought up the subject, yet I am the one being asked to provide qualification to discuss it. I would suggest that as 169 of the world’s nations have signed up to a treaty to combat global warming, the burden of proof is on you to provide qualification that it is a myth.
Wake up, it’s just an excuse for a tax grab.
Ask Flash Gordon.
I was a landscape gardener for a number of years up to 1994. Even then, spending most of the year outdoors, it was already plain to see climate change was happening.
Taxes will have to rise steadily anyway to pay for PFI, bailing out such projects as British Energy and paying guaranteed profits.
Climate change denial is about not wanting to change your lifestyle one whit, but when Republican American has acknowledged it, the only option for such individuals is to argue that it is now too late to avoid catastrophic climate change, ergo do nothing.
This would involve an ironic, but necessary, change from no-nonsense self-styled empiricist to high priest of doom.
Bonkers fest was great on the Green yesterday. It showed Camberwell at its best — diverse, welcoming, non judgemental, slightly strange but all good fun.
I was sad to see that the doors and windows of the Old Dispensary have been boarded up — I hope this doesnt mean it earmarked for demolition.
Was excellent- anyone got anything on Flickr yet?
Check out this piano. It’s in Loughborough Junction and it’s a bargain.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200116493476
Tell me, Alan, is that YOUR piano, and are you hawking it on here in order to push the price up?
I live in Allendale Close. That piano is in the corridor of a flat 30m from Lo J station.
It belongs to my creator’s cousin.
He bought it on e‑bay for £60, paid £230 to get it delivered to his flat only to find that they couldn’t get it up the stairs.
Now, four months later, their washing machine has broken and the only way they can replace it is if they clear the piano out of the ground floor corridor.
The Creator’s cousin can’t bring himself to destroy the piano so he is givig it away for 99p on ebay.
It will be a bargain but only if it’s bought locally and hence the Creator has instructed me to put links to his auction on the local forums where I exist.
Feel free ro remove it if you class it as spam Big Man but I think the tale merits the plug.
I wouldn’t have removed it even if it were yours, I just thought we might have found out your real name.
You found out the Creator’s cousin’s real name.
Alan Dale is my real name.
Around Hill and Down Dale
the Creator’s cousin’s piano’s for sale
It is heartening that somebody bought an acoustic piano, rather than a Clavinova, in our area. The architectural trend round here is after all towards a society composed of a series of secure and bland-looking residential pods with room only for eating, sleeping, showering and Sky TV.
Although I don’t remember the last time I saw a piano in a pub, restaurant or even a church in SE5…
I am interested in Christine’s views about Camberwell (post 67 above). Where were/are you in the States? There was an interesting programme last night on BBC4 about the regeneration of Manhattan, which was pertinent to Camberwell. They got rid of the perceived/felt fear first. Then new immigrants came which meant there were eyes and ears everywhere e.g. Koreans traders on street corners 24 hours a day. More people bring up their nippers there in the city now rather than move out to the suburbs. Manhattan has lost some soul but has fewer deaths.